作为世界最富有国家之一，很快无家可归者乞讨金钱或者其他救助就要成为非法了
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作为世界最富有国家之一，很快无家可归者乞讨金钱或者其他救助就要成为非法了

In one of the world's richest countries, it may soon become illegal for homeless individuals to beg for money or other means of assistance.
In one of the world’s richest countries, it may soon become illegal for homeless individuals to beg for money or other means of assistance. In fact, 60% of Norway’s population believes that begging should be a crime. The country aims to ban begging, and those who are caught may be fined with up to three months in prison.

作为世界最富有国家之一，很快无家可归者乞讨金钱或者其他救助就要成为非法了。事实上，有60%的挪威人认为乞讨应该是犯罪，挪威准备禁止乞讨，那些被抓的乞讨者可能面临三个月的监禁

According to The Financial Times (F T), if this new law is passed, it will allow local municipalities to introduce an immediate ban on begging that will take effect nationally by summer 2015.

根据金融时报报道，如果法律通过，会让乡镇地方政府立即禁止乞讨，可能在2015年夏天实施

However in- humanitarian this movement may be, it seems the Norwegians in favor of such a law agree with it because a majority of beggars in Norway are not residents. Nova research institute released a report that claims there are up to 1,000 foreign beggars among the country’s 5 million population.

这种做法可能有点没有人道主义精神，但挪威人都认同这种做法，因为大多数挪威的乞讨者都不是本地居民，有调查显示在这个500万人口的国家，有1000名外国乞讨者

FT told Himan shu Gulati, State Secretary at the Justice Ministry and member of the Populist Progress Party,“ In the past few years we have seen an increase in beggars in many cities and towns in Norway and we have a deep concern for the association between the flow of beggars from outside Norway and organized criminality.”

金融时报援引Himan shu Gulati的话说，“在过去多年我们注意到了挪威乞讨者人数的上涨，我们担忧这与外国乞讨者的进入以及有组织的犯罪组织有关”

Those that oppose such view point argue that such a law is shameful and unfairly targets the most vulnerable. Opposition politicians also claim that the measures could spoil the international image of the country, especially following the debates on whether Norway should shelter Syrian refugees.

那些反对的人称这一法律是可耻的，对于弱者来说是不公的。反对党也称这会影响挪威的国际形象，特别是关于挪威是否应该为叙利亚难民提供庇护的讨论

“The [begging] ban is very bad and it sends out a very bad signal. It is not that all beggars are criminals or that the problem is so big. It is more like it seems to be a ban to help us to not meet them, the needy who are sitting on our streets,” Kjell In golf Ropstad, justice spokesman for the Christian Democrats, was quoted in the F T.

Kjell In golf Ropstad说，“这一禁令非常糟糕，也传递了不好的信息，不是所有的乞讨者都是罪犯，或者问题很大，更像是让我们不再见到他们，那些需要坐在大街上的人”

Frode Sul land, the head of defense group at the Norwegian Bar Association, said that the ban could counter European human rights rules.

挪威律师协会领导人Frode Sul land，称这一禁令有违欧洲人权准则

“You can go to almost any city in Europe and there will be a bigger problem with beggars than there is in Oslo. We think there is a right for every body to ask every body else for help. This is an activity that in it self doesn’t harm any body,” spoke Sul land.

Frode Sul land说，“你去欧洲任何国家，乞讨问题都要比这里奥斯陆严重的多，我觉得所有人都有权利向他人寻求帮助，这一行为本身不会伤害任何人”

Whether such a law will pass remains to be seen. Apparently a similar anti- begging ban was overturned in 2005.

这一法律能否通过还不得而知，显然一个类似的反乞讨法案在2005年被推翻

But in a country that has the highest GDP per capita – at about $100,000 in 2013, according to the International Monetary Fund – perhaps a solution not severing the symptom can be offered so that real, long-term solution may be realized.

但作为有最高人均GDP的国家—2013年大约为10万美元—可能一个不会恶化这一现象的解决方法可以长久解决这个问题

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Arne Bist Cool
I dun no what the deal is in Norway, but in Denmark beggars are mostly eastern euro peans. At least 90% are Romanian gypsies.
I would hope they banned begging here in Den mark as w e l l. . They should go back and beg their government for better living conditions, not engage in wel fare tourism.

我不知道在挪威是什么情况，但在丹麦大多数乞讨者都是东欧人，至少90%是罗马尼亚吉普赛人
我也希望他们在丹麦禁止乞讨，至少回到自己政府那儿祈求更好的生活方式，而不是旅游者的便宜

M_ Win ter
It's the same all over Europe.
They are organized groups. They bring in busloads of children and place them strategically all over the city.

在欧洲都是这样的
他们是有组织的，带来很多儿童然后放在城市各个角落

Cybe le child
Unfortunately going back and begging for better conditions wouldn't work. It s mostly about culture rather than policy that discriminates against them. And if some one thinks that forbidding begging will work is in for a surprise

不幸的是回到自己国家祈求更好生活是不可能的，这是文化问题而不是歧视政策，如果有人觉得禁止乞讨是现实的那我会很惊讶

C rou chio
It already is illegal here in the U K

在英国已经是非法的了

Bobby bren dal
Would seem to be more honest and productive to just outlaw the Roma.

如果宣布罗马是不合法的可能更加现实有效

Oc ta vian
In one of the world's richest countries, it may soon become illegal for home less individuals to beg for money or other means of assistance.
Sovereignty. Has that gone completely out of style in Europe? If you don't like what foreign nationals are doing in your country, do some thing about it.

作为世界最富有国家之一，很快无家可归者乞讨金钱或者其他救助就要成为非法了
主权在欧洲完全消失了吗？如果你不喜欢外国人来你的国家，那就对此做点什么

Fassy Fan S
Street performers will probably be exempt. So, where do you draw the line? If a home less person dances, is it O K? What if they pretend to be one of those statue- people? What if they sing?
What if you look like a home less person and just sit in a park. W I l l you be asked to leave because it looks like you might be begging? Is it only begging if you place a cup next to your self? What if you look nice and are genuinely just asking for change to the bus? Probably won't be harassed by the police as long as you don't look foreign.
I find these types of laws scary. It's impossible to enforce with out bias.

街头表演者可能会被驱逐，但你怎么界定呢，如果无家可归的人跳舞，那可以吗？如果他们假装是扮演雕塑的人，如果他们唱歌呢？
如果看起来像是无家可归的人只是坐在那里呢？你会因为他们看起来像是乞讨的赶他们走吗？如果在身旁放一个杯子会被认为是乞讨吗？万一看起来很友善只是想要换零钱呢？只要看起来不像外国人都不会被警察骚扰的
我觉得这种法律很可怕，不可能没有偏见的实施的

Picar do85 Finland[ S]
Technically you can en force it rather well. In Finland you need a permit issued by the police to perform and sell stuff on the streets. I've seen for example native americans being shut down by the police because of lack of permits. They would have gotten one if they had applied, but they didn't apply for one. Bureaucracy:)

理论上你能很好实施的，在芬兰你需要许可证才能在街上卖东西，比如我看到过美国人被警察阻止就因为没有许可证，他们如果申请就能有的，但他们没有申请。

No Submission Statemen
H e y, how about a submission statement?、

嘿，怎么没有提交声明？

Man drake
It will be nice for the tourists during the summer days and if the beggers come out at night when there's no police in sight they will be kicked away by the drug dealers, pimps and immigrant s e x workers that stalk the streets.

如果是夏天有游客的话很不错，但如果乞讨者晚上出现，街上没有警察，就会被毒品交易者以及移民性工作者的话就会被赶走了

Flick l l
In one of the world's richest countries, it may soon become illegal for home less individuals to beg for money or other means of assistance.
I don't have a problem with this. Norway has one of the best social net works in the world. There is no excuse for begging.
Un less they are there illegally, then in that case they need to leave the country any way.

作为世界最富有国家之一，很快无家可归者乞讨金钱或者其他救助就要成为非法了
我觉得这没有问题，挪威有世界上最好的社会网络，没有理由进行乞讨
除非他们是非法的，那样的话就应该离开这个国家

Alec s_ stan
Good for them. This is easy. Enforcing it is hard.

他们做得好，这很简单，虽然实施困难

Jon Wood00 7l Pennsylvania
W t f!? Isn't norway supposed to be progressive?!
http://nerdreactor.com/wp-conten ... -the-chosen-one.jpg

什么？挪威不是进步国家吗？
http://nerdreactor.com/wp-conten ... -the-chosen-one.jpg

ra ki jin
I live in Norway and I can tell you why people are having an issue with it. In the last years a lot of people, specially from Romania has come over here to beg. Lot of these have back hand people who they gather money for. You see them laying on the street with a smart phone and new n I k e shoes and what not some times. Don't get me wrong, they don't walk around with Gucci or any thing like that. This has increased more and more, though it seems to have toned down a bit now. They also leave a lot of trash and take a dump wher ever. Many people are not happy about that stuff as they can go to certain parks or what ever and sleep their.
What this mostly boils down too and why people have an issue with this is that immigrating in Nor way is pretty bad in many ways, they don't do it properly. This has been going on for years and many are fed up by it. There is more to it but that is the basic gist of it. Al so, this fantasy that scandinavian countries are so great is a bit of misconception on here. There is a lot of good things here but it certainly is not the paradise people think these countries are.

我生活在挪威我能告诉你为什么会有这个问题。过去多年很多人，特别是罗马尼亚人来这里乞讨，很多都是有幕后黑手卷钱的，你看他们躺在那里，手里还有智能机和新的nike 鞋子，不要误解我，他们不会穿着Gucci之类的，但这发生的越来越多，虽然看起来最近有点减少了，他们还会留下很多垃圾，很多人对他们一直逗留在公园之类地方睡觉不满
最重要的是移民来到挪威带来了很多不好的地方，这已经持续了很多年了，我们已经受够了，我说的只是其中的一部分，还有，人们对于东欧国家的美好幻想存在误解，确实这里有很多好事，但不像你们想的是天堂

No to all
Following in the foot steps of America, where feeding the home less has been out lawed in how many dozens of cities so far?

跟随美国的脚步，有多少国家的无家可归者已经是不合法的了？

美网友评论：在挪威无家可归、乞讨、救助、将是非法的